CCM: We would assume that there has been a few surprises in this for you…
AG: I think the one we did with Nicole C. Mullen about race in the church was really a beautiful conversation. One I didn’t quite expect. I know Nicole, but didn’t necessarily know she had that level of depth of thought about that specific issue. She said some really profound things about [that subject], talk about again, us having a safe place for conversation with two white guys and an African American woman. Just being able to sit down and talk, and not even let race be a thing.

The Point Of Grace girls are always, always easy to talk to, and have a lot more depth of thought than I think they’ve ever been encouraged to talk about.

ML: I don’t know that we’ve cut too deep yet, either. I think we could cut deeper as we go along, as learn how to do this. How to get close to offending, but don’t. Just cut a little deeper…are we really getting to the bottom of this? We may never, but it’s fun trying.

AG: From a music industry standpoint, too, there’s give and there’s take. The interviewee in the situation, I think that’s how you can kind-of prove your point with conversation and communion. That opens the heart, that opens, that breaks the ice. You do sit down and do interviews, you’ve been trained, you’ve just released a project and everything’s about that.

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CCM: How necessary is this?
AG: I’m still in the ring, kind of finding my way, and very achievement oriented. To do something like this, and just to be encouraged to do it because there are good things that come from it, that conversation is important… I think that has been a large part of what [Mark Lowry has] spoken into me about this, whether [he] knew it or not. It’s actually seeing the value of the content, not, “Are we number one, are we selling as many as we should?” [Mark] is in a more relaxed place in [his] life and career. [Speaking to Mark] You may have always been there, I don’t know. It helps you relax. You know what I mean?

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